DJB: You mean the binary language?
JOHN: There’s no way to tell what the hell language the brain uses. Sure, you can show digital operations of the brain, you can analyze neural impulses traveling down your axons, hut what are those? Well, as far as I can see they are just a recovery from a system that’s in the middle of the axon, and that’s operating at the speed of light. Neuronal impulses going down the axons are just clearing up the laser points so that it’s ready for the next one, continuously. It’s like sleep. Sleep is a state in which the human biocomputer integrates and analyzes what went on the previous time it was outside, throws out all the memories that aren’t going to be useful tomorrow and stores only those memories which will be useful. So it’s a process like a big computer in which you have to empty memory and start over. We do this all the time.
DJB: Along these lines, I’m wondering, do you think memories are actually stored in the brain or do you agree with Rupert Sheldrake’s theory that memories are stored in information fields or something similar.
JOHN: I’ve read some of Sheldrakes’s stuff and he’s too glib. He’s got all explanation for everything. The universe is much more complicated than he’s trying to make it out to be. People tend to do this-I’ve tried to avoid it. I make fun of my own theories. I say, what I believe to be true is unbelievable, so that I don’t believe in anything, you see? Temporarily I may in order to talk with somebody. Memories are stored in the feedback with ECCO and ECCO takes care of all this. I don’t know how they operate, but Sheldrake calls stuff memory which isn’t memory; it’s living program.
DJB: Do you think that the brain acts as a transceiver:,
JOHN: Yeah, that’s right. The brain, the bio-computer is a huge transmitter/ receiver and we’re just beginning to see what it is. Have you ever seen anything like a TV show on ketamine?
DJB: Yeah, with commercials even.
JOHN: Well, they’re real. The first time I saw that I thought, my God, all we’re doing is increasing the sensitivity of the brain to microwaves. And the problem with microwaves is that they’re influencing us below our level of awareness all the rime. Well, this morning for instance, on ketamine, I went into this place where all these people were interacting and I got involved. When I came back I realized that I had got into a soap opera on TV and was taking part in it as if it were reality!
Now kids must do this all the time. Marvelous! But you got to watch out because you may be taken in and think they’re extraterrestrial or something, unless you can see something that cues you in that this is a TV station.
DJB: Have your experiences with ketamine and your near-death encounters influenced your perspective on what happens to human consciousness after biological death?
JOHN: I refuse to equate my experiences with death. I think it’s too easy to do that. When I was out for five days and nights on PCP, the guides took me to planets that were being destroyed and so on. I think ECCO made me take that PCP so they could educate me. And they kept hauling me around and I tried to get back hut they said, “Nope, you haven’t seen all the planets yet.” One was being destroyed by atomic energy of war, one was being destroyed by a big asteroid that hit the planet, another one was being destroyed by biological warfare, and on and on and on. I realized that the universe is effectively benign; it may kill you but it will teach you something in the process.
DJB: Do you think that there is