Dean Radin – 2
the morning with that dream in my mind feeling a certain pressure, especially since the dream had a sense of urgency in it. I felt compelled to go ahead and do this. So I did it, and it did work. Since then I’ve expanded the study. To date we’ve run thirty pairs of people, and we get very evidence of a brain-to-brain correlations, which presumably also means a mind-to-mind connection between two people who are isolated.
So I started looking at the literature, and it turns out that there’s about a dozen articles like this that have been published, and one of the interesting things about it is that most of these articles have been published in mainstream journals. They’re not hidden away in the parapsychology journals like a lot of psi research. It includes Science, Nature, Physics Essays, the International Journal of Neuroscience, and so on. My study is coming out in the Journal of Alternative and Complementary Medicine shortly.
So, this is not really new because the studies go back to the mid-Sixties. But it’s new in the sense that there’s been a new rush of interest and this work is starting to appear in mainstream journals. As far as I can tell, with only one exception every group that has tried to replicate this effect has been successful, and that’s remarkable.
David: What are you currently working on?
Dean: What I’m interested in right now is to find a way of testing what I’ll call the speed of thought. When we do these EEG correlation experiments, they’re nice to do because the brain responds to stimuli very quickly, so we can generate lots of data without much trouble. And when we look at responses in the sending person’s brain, we know what the evoked responses looks like. We know the timing of it. We know the shape of it. There’s been thousands studies published on that.
There’s no conventional reason to expect that the receiver would also show a response, but the fact is that they do. So there are several things that we need to figure out. One is, where in the receiving brain does the signal appear? There’s been one functional MRI study that has been done with a pair of people who are quite good at this, and in two sessions the same small portion of the brain lit up, which suggests there may be a localized site for telepathy. This study needs to replicated to know if this was a fluke or a meaningful discovery.
David: What part of the brain lit up in the functional MRI study?
Dean: I don’t know the name of the location. It’s not as simple as “the corpus callosum”, or anything of that sort. Functional MRI studies use a convention that specifies locations in the brain. The author of the study was Leanna Standish, of Bastyr University near Seattle.
The other thing though is that when we look at when the two responses occur, it turns out they occur almost synchronously in time, within milliseconds. What that suggests is that whatever is going on in the receiver’s brain is happening at about the same time as in the sending brain–meaning that it’s not like a signal is going from here to there, but that, in some respect, they’re the same person. They’re interconnected without regard to time, very similar to how we might think of as an EPR [Einstein, Podolsky and Rosen] experiment, or a Bell’s Theorem experiment with entangled photons.
If that is the case, then we should be able to do this experiment with the two people at any arbitrary distance, and see that we are still getting a synchronous result. In other words, the speed of thought would be instantaneous. Well, ten years ago it would have been very difficult to do this experiment because it was expensive to try to synchronize two independent EEG’s at a distance. But now, with the relatively inexpensive GPS clocks, we can put two people anywhere on the planet and synchronize their physiology to within a few nanoseconds. So what I’d like to do next if I can raise the funding is to do an experiment in which we put two people on either side of the Earth, and see if we can measure if there is a speed of thought. My guess is that we will see correlations in their EEG’s, just as we do in the lab, but we won’t see any discernible delay in the correlation.
Of course, precisely measuring if there is a delay will be a challenge given that the candidate “carrier” wave moves at the speed of light, which is pretty fast compared to EEG signals. So we may have to wait until we have people on the moon, or Mars, to properly do this test. If the EEG correlations appear, regardless of the speed of “transmission”, then it is conceivable that telepathy may provide a backup communications system for manned missions to other planets. This might sound like fantasy or science fiction, but I believe it is within our