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Annie Sprinkle

that I didn’t know about. Sometimes, when I’m with a woman, it really brings out the masculine in me and sometimes it really brings out the feminine.

Women are much softer, which is exactly what I didn’t like about them at first – then it was exactly what I loved about them. Women are much more cunningly seductive, they really know how to do that dance whereas men are much simpler. Women are more multi-faceted – you can’t pin them down. But I don’t think I can generalize about the differences between men and women because there are so many kinds of men and so many kinds of women.

Rebecca: Is that a large part of what these relationships are about – to encourage these different personas inside yourself to come out and have their time on the stage?

Annie: Yeah. I don’t want to be monogamous because when I’m with each different person it brings out some totally different aspect of myself. I tried it once and it was nice, I have nothing against it. But if my goal is to find out everything I can about my own sexuality and sex out in the world – I can’t. I’ve had one relationship for seventeen years, so I do have a sense of what a long-term relationship is, but I also love short-term ones and get a lot out of them.

David: How do you see technology influencing sex in the future?

Annie: Vibrator technology is fascinating. Every woman ought to have a good vibrator in my opinion, especially women who are pre-orgasmic – it’s crucial for learning. Certainly phone-sex has had an enormous impact. The right-wing backlash has a lot to do with phone-sex. For the first time in history, millions of people a day were discussing their sexual fantasies totally honestly and totally openly because it was anonymous. I think there are exciting new worlds popping up.

But I’ve been with guys who are really into phone-sex and when you have sex with them it’s like you’re talking on the phone – this is a trick, a client – and I was just amazed because they are more into the phone-sex thing than the reality. They were totally dissociating from the physical aspects of sucking and fucking. So I’m sure that in some ways the technology will take us away or distract us from some beautiful aspects of sexuality and it will also probably add.

I experienced this vibrasound machine which has the blinking lights and which vibrates to music. It felt like a vibrator for the whole body and I ended up having this really beautiful, tantric, sexual experience on this machine. I went into this huge all-body, energy orgasm – total surrender, total ecstasy, total deliciousness. It was one of the best sexual experiences I’ve ever had. It put me in a deep meditative trance state which you can get into through sex but which takes a long time. It might have taken me a couple of days but I got into that and beyond that in an hour and a half.

David: What role do you think psychedelics play in the evolution of sexuality?

Annie: Well, I mostly did psychedelics when I was a virgin. When I was a young hippie in Tucson I was doing it, but I wasn’t as conscious about my sexuality. I’m gearing up to do some psychedelic drugs. I shot heroin recently as part of my sexual explorations. I know the sacred prostitutes used a lot of drugs. I haven’t done this so much because it’s a little hard on the body and I’m hesitant to do things that will drain my energy.

David: Did you find any similarity between the peak of an LSD trip and the height of a sexual experience, in terms of the consciousness level?

Annie: Yeah. There is some connection. When I’m in a state of sexual ecstasy and I get up and look at the moon, I have a psychedelic experience of the moon. I don’t know if it works the other way around, I would imagine it does.

David: That was how Timothy Leary popularized LSD, through the sexual connection in terms of opening up the senses.

Annie: That’s true. Sex is about the senses. By my bed I have an altar with all kinds of sensual things. I have expanded my concept of sex to include any kind of sensuous thing. Swimming is unbelievably sexual to me.

David: What general future possibilities do you see in the evolution of sexual awareness?

Annie: Ideally I’d like to see it being used in hospitals and I’d like to see people being trained to use sex for emotional therapy. Now, it’s really taboo for a therapist to put his fingers inside a woman and clear out her blocks – but I would like to see that. I see sex with extraterrestrials, more sex with angels. I see a lot of sexually enlightened people coming around. I’ve seen these young, sexual prodigies – a group of people who are really highly sexually evolved. Definitely lots of technology. Virtual Reality sounds really interesting and also holographic sound. Birth control technology is going to help a lot.

Rebecca: Do you have a definition of pornography? Is this a meaningless term to you in the sense most people use it?

Annie: I don’t have a definition. Pornography is such a huge subject.

Rebecca: Do you see any value at all in censorship?

Annie: Well, I don’t think sex is for everyone. I’ve been talking about a subculture of sexually highly evolved people, but there are also highly evolved scientists and not everyone is going to be a highly evolved scientist. I do see value in censorship in the sense that it adds to the excitement, it adds to the passion. When I go to a college and I show my video and everyone’s ho hum about it, it’s boring. I prefer when there’s some controversy. I’m starting to get a sense of the value of the imperfections in the world.

Rebecca: Do you think that censorship can help to protect people?

Annie: No. I don’t see it that way. I can only go by my own experience. I’ve liberated my sexuality, I’ve been promiscuous, I’ve broken every societal sexual tabboo you can break, and I feel I’ve come out a winner. I’ve never been raped, I’ve never got any deadly disease and I’m free from the problems that many people have with sex.

Rebecca: What about people who have had problems with sex?

Annie: I think that all sexual abuse and rape is because our society sees sex so negatively; it’s just a reflection of where people are at sexually. I see rape as a sexual thing. The way people express their sexuality is full of guilt and shame and violence and hate.

Rebecca: Do you feel that there is any connection between the way sex is portrayed in the media and sexual acts, like rape?

Annie: Well, I think that everyone in the world wants to be healthier, have more fun, more ecstasy, have some laughs, be loved, be touched. Isn’t that what everyone wants? So my work is to be that example, but inevitably what happens is that by being that person, I’m constantly being asked: What about rape? What about abuse? What about child pornography? I’m getting asked about all this shit, and here I am, just trying to be in ecstasy. Why is that? I’m just fascinated by that. Wherever I go, people talk about pain and suffering.

Rebecca: Perhaps people talk about what they know.

Annie: Why don’t they want to talk about ecstasy and orgasms? I know that violence on TV can cause violence, but I would like to see more porn pictures on television which cause pleasure. Most people don’t enjoy sex.

What’s really terrifying about child abuse is not so much the actual abuse but the fact that, as a teacher, you cannot touch a thirteen year old girl on the shoulder any more. To keep talking about child abuse is to continue the abuse and create more abuse, it gives people ideas. In my book, child abuse is not teaching children to masturbate.

David: That’s something that’s hardly ever talked about – teaching children to enjoy their sexuality.

Annie: I’m not very sympathetic about some things because I don’t see sex as bad. In the Native American tradition, when a child was interested in sex, they sent that child to learn about it from an adult and the child had sex with that person when they were ready. People are horrified by the idea of having sex with animals. I wouldn’t want to hurt a dog, but I don’t see anything wrong with having sex with dogs.

Rebecca: Of course the pivotal phrase in what you just said is, “when they’re ready.” It makes a difference if somebody or some animal is being forced to engage in a sexual act, against their will.

Annie: I went to therapy, I got angry, I cried, and now looking back, I enjoyed the things I cried about. I’m for taking all the worst sexual experiences and making them learning experiences.

Rebecca: You enjoyed them at the time or you enjoyed them in retrospect?

Annie: I enjoyed them at the time. There are no mistakes in sex, I think it’s a great tool for learning – even the lousiest, worst, nightmarish sexual experiences. But then I think that about everything in life too. I’m not afraid to die, I’m afraid of getting fat. (laughter) That’s my worst fear.

I never had to be a prostitute. I was always aware that I had a lot of other options. Some prostitutes have no choice, but there are as many types of prostitutes as there are people. I think in my early twenties I wanted to live dangerously.

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